Episode Overview

Being entrepreneurs is often glamorized; sitting on the beach drinking mai tais while the money just rolls into your bank account.  The reality is, it just isn’t like that.  Being an entrepreneur is a challenge, and a journey filled with ups and down.  Life is also a similar journey.

So today, we are going to “pull back the curtains” and share our journey with you guys.  There are ups, there are downs and we have both grown and changed along the way.  We hope that you take away from this is a glimpse into what it looks like to be a real entrepreneurial couple.

 

Episode Key Points

  • Our fondest memories before becoming entrepreneurs
  • Our biggest individual growth areas during college
  • We each had strengths and weaknesses and we helped each other in those areas
  • Just getting a degree doesn’t mean that you will have a job after college
  • The importance of learning personal finance and how to save at a young age
  • As you go through life, your outlook and values will likely change
  • Your circle of friends will often change, as you get married, have kids and/or become an entrepreneur
  • Kids often make you want to be the best version of yourself
  • Communication is key when living or working with someone (especially your spouse)
  • The importance of defining working agreements with your partner
  • Talking about your goals will help make sure that you are in agreement what you want your lives to look like
  • Don’t believe all of the hype around being an entrepreneur… it is not just living a life on the beach

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Ariana: This is the Serial Startups Podcast, show twenty-two. In the previous episode, we wrapped up our business planning mini-course episodes. Today, we’re going to discuss our evolution into entrepreneurship.
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Welcome to the Serial Startups Podcast, where we bring you the real deal when it comes to masterminding a business, juggling personal relationships and a busy household. We are your hosts and serial entrepreneurs, Tom and Ariana Sylvester, and this is the podcast for people who want to get more out of life. We want to show you how to build multiple streams of income and get on the fast-track to being your own boss. Join us as we talk about our ideas, successes, and failures, both in business and in life.
Tom: All right, so welcome back to the Serial Startups Podcast. If you’re just joining us, we just finished up our three-part miniseries around business planning. If you guys remember, we’re actually going to do three shows a month around a specific business topic, and then we’re going to have one that’s really on lifestyle, mindset, and really all the stuff that goes on behind the business that a lot of people typically don’t talk about.
Ariana: First, we’re going to take you back to some of the fondest and I guess funniest memories of when we first met. I’ll start. If you’ve listened to our intro episode, Tom and I went to the same college, lived down the hall from each other. Some of my fondest memories of Tom are the days where I would go off to class, and I’d have a couple, four classes and maybe a science lab, and I would come home after soccer practice later, and what do I find but Tom sitting in his dorm room, playing Final Fantasy, sitting about two feet from the TV, and he would have a closet full of two-liter Mountain Dew and bags of Doritos.
Tom: Let me just get that straight. You said one of your fondest memories is me playing Final Fantasy and eating Doritos and drinking Mountain Dew? Like that is awesome. You’re an awesome wife.
Ariana: Well, fondest is used loosely. Now it’s a fond memory. Back then, I used to get pissed.
Tom: I was going to say, the way I remember it was .. Yeah, you had a lot of homework, you had classes all day, and then you’d come back at the end of the day and be like, “Oh my gosh, that Final Fantasy music.”
Ariana: Are you freaking kidding me? Yes, I will point out, to this day, that that game is not allowed in this household because it brings back bad memories. Now, that I look back, they are fond memories.
Tom: Yeah, so that’s why I play Call of Duty now.
Ariana: Yes. I’ll be okay with that one. No annoying background music to get stuck in my head. Then, also, not many of you may know this about Tom, but he was my little small, country-town rapper. He used to throw down and he used to dress like one as well. One of his favorite clothing companies was South Pole.
Tom: I’ve got skills.
Ariana: I can’t fault the guy because he absolutely loved me even though I wore sweatpants every single day.
Tom: Wore? I think it’s still wear.
Ariana: Hey now. I put jeans on some days.
Tom: Some days?
Ariana: Yeah.
Tom: Very rarely.
Ariana: At least they’re still the same sweatpants.
Tom: I was going to say, I think they’re actually the same sweatpants from college.
Ariana: My Oswego State soccer sweatpants. Those things are the most comfortable sweatpants ever.
Tom: So just throwing it out there, we’re coming up on our ten year college reunion this year and you still have the same sweatpants.
Ariana: I sure do.
Tom: And you wear them all the time.
Ariana: And sweatshirts. They were a whole outfit.
Tom: You still have high school sweatshirts.
Ariana: Shhh.
Tom: That’s dedication.
Ariana: You can’t really see any of the letters on them. They’ve all fallen off.
Tom: I lose a pen after two days and you’ve had t-shirts for like fifteen years.
Ariana: Yes. I like my stuff.
Tom: All right. For me, fondest memories, this is going to sound very corny but the reality is we went to the same school. We met each other the first day. Right away, people called us the married couple. Right? When I look back at that, it was like there was no better time than when we were just kind of like care-free. I met you, we instantly hit it off, and we were best friends.
Ariana: I felt like I knew you forever.
Tom: Yeah I mean we would sit up at night, in the hall, just talking about life and things. There was a thing at our college like late night. At ten o’clock you can go get pizza and stuff on campus and we would go and do that. Just thinking like … Everyone is college was like, “We’re going to go out on the weekend and get drunk.” We did the stuff out there but there were so many nights where we would just stay in and we’d play games and really just enjoy each other. Now that we are married with kids and businesses, that time is rare. I look back and that was just amazing. I think for anyone out there listening, when you have time to do those things, enjoy it. As life goes on, really just make sure you make time for that. I think that’s one of the things that we’re really trying to do all the time now. How do we get some of that time back for us?
Ariana: Movie nights, game nights. Don’t forget to put them on the calendar.
Tom: All right. What are we going to go through today?
Ariana: Today we’re going to talk about our journey as entrepreneurs. We’re going to kind of split that out for you. We’re going to talk about how we personally grew along that journey and then how our relationship grew along that journey because, you know, not a lot of people talk about that stuff. That’s what we’re going to talk about today. With that, let’s jump into the show, the journey and evolution into entrepreneurs.
Tom: The main topic today, like Ariana said, is really just talking about that journey. Let me tell you, becoming an entrepreneur is definitely a journey and it’s full of craziness, happiness, frustration, depression, and it’s really rewarding. It is a challenge. When you do it with your spouse, it is so much more difficult but at the same time, the rewards are also so much greater. What we’re going to do as we go through this is really take you guys back on that journey so that you guys see what it looks like, where the ups and down were, and then also how we changed personally and then as a relationship. Because, like we said before, far too many people you see the successes that businesses have, you see people talk about their positives, but you don’t see all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes. To be honest, everyone goes through these things. If you’re going through them or if you go through them in the future, just know that you’re not weird.
Ariana: You’re not alone.
Tom: People on talk about … If you look on Facebook or Instagram or anything, you’re going to get 1% of someone’s life and it’s the 1% they want to show you. We’re going to show you the other 99% here today.
Ariana: Yeah. We’re going to start off with our personal growth and we’re each going to share I guess what we think changed the most about us. Then we’ll take you through after college, after marriage, after business, and after kids, some of own personal growth notes and then we’ll skip over to the relationship stuff after.
I’ll start first. I would like to think that my biggest personal growth moment, since this whole journey began, is that I learned to embrace change. When we first met in college, I was very OCD about certain things. I wanted everything done the way I wanted it. I liked to be in control of things which some of that has changed, some of it has not but that was part of my personality and it was hard for me to separate that. I was an only child so I very used to being on my own, doing my own thing, taking care of everything that I needed taken care of and I didn’t need anyone else to do that.
Tom: Kind of related to that, it was interesting so I was one of three children. I was the first one. You say you were on your own, but you also had very supportive parents, a very tight-knit family. A lot of what you were doing was also related to your parents and that tight-knit family. For me, I had two younger siblings and I had a little bit of a tough time going through high school. My parents got divorced. It was a challenging time for me and one of the things I think for me was I became really independent. I had three jobs my senior year of college. I had my own apartment. I basically started taking care of myself and figuring out like what are all the things I’ve got to do. I think it’s interesting to see how your family dynamics and then also if you’re a single child versus one of multiples and just how that kind of effects everything else in your life and how you think about things.
Ariana: My parents were very big on independence too so I think that was a big part of it. A lot of people, they talk about the only child syndrome. I am definitely one of the rare ones that I didn’t really have that issue that a lot of only children have. I was raised to be independent so it was hard to let other people take the reign sometimes.
Tom: I think even … You were raised to be independent but you didn’t have independent experiences in some cases like money.
Ariana: Correct.
Tom: That was a place where I had to become independent and understand how to manage finances. I think that was a good way for us to kind of help each other.
Ariana: We complimented each other well, even back then.
Tom: Kind of related to that, when I look at it, one of my biggest issues when I came to college was trust. Like I said, I had been through some trying times and one of the things that kind of got in my head was, “Well, I can’t trust people because if I trust someone, they’re just going to let me down.” I became very independent in a different way. I was always doing everything myself. I didn’t want to open up or let anyone in. I remember one of the challenges I had was when we would talk about things or when something would kind of get close or personal, it was very tough for me to let you in and talk about some of those things because I was so used to doing it myself and not letting other people in to help with that.
Ariana: That was the OCD and control freak in me. I forced it out of you.
Tom: I think one of the big things here is we both helped each other. We both were kind of extreme is some cases and I think a lot of what it did is we still have those tendencies but I think it pulled us more to center so they weren’t as extreme.
Ariana: We know we have those tendencies because we talked about it. I make you knock down the wall because I’m just not going to let you put the wall up.
Tom: You were like a wrecking ball.
Ariana: I’m not going to break out in song. Just so you all know. I could have.
Tom: I teed that right up for you.
Ariana: Not today. Let’s talk about after college. I think one of our biggest realizations, well mine personally, I realized that life looks a lot different on the other side of that degree. You go through high school and you go through college and everyone’s very supportive and they tell you to do what you want to do. “Go to school for something you love to do.” “Aspire to those dreams of life when you get out of college and get your dream job.” Then when you get out of college, you realize that those dreams might be a little far off.
You kind of have to adjust based on the real world which I wished someone would have told me because my zoology degree was not a very practical degree. I loved animals so I went to school for animals. Then I got out of school and there are not a whole lot of jobs for a zoology degree. Then on top of that, there aren’t any well paying jobs for that zoology degree. That was something that I had to come to terms with and realize, “Okay, I’m not going to reach my dream of being a zookeeper and playing with animals all day, everyday.”
Tom: I don’t think you’re saying, “Don’t go after your dreams.” I think the biggest thing for you that would’ve helped is someone to kind of walk you through what does that look like and what’s it going to take to get there because a lot of times people say, “Go to college for what you love to do.” Okay, good advice but what does it look like afterwards?
Ariana: Can I live on what I love to do?
Tom: What does it look like afterwards and if you want to be a zoologist, what does that mean? Well, you’ve got three options in New York. If that doesn’t work, you’re going to have to move. Is that something you want to do? If not, you probably could’ve changed your course much sooner rather than getting all the way through that degree and being like, “I don’t want to move therefore I’m likely not going to get this job.”
Ariana: Correct.
Tom: I think one of the things related to that is when you’re in college, you get student loans and you don’t really [crosstalk 00:12:56] too much.
Ariana: Your parents might help you out.
Tom: Yeah, but you don’t really look to much at money. Then when you get out and suddenly you’re paying for everything. Then suddenly all those student loan payments start to come back, you really start to understand how much you spend and how much it takes to cover everything. This is where everyone kind of gets into that trap of working a job to pay the bills. One of the big things that I look at if we could’ve went back and known more about expenses and stuff in college.
Ariana: Another course that would be good for them to teach us.
Tom: Absolutely. That’s one of the big things I always say, people should learn personal finance hopefully at home but also in school. One of the big things were doing with our kids is trying to teach them about money. We’ll put a picture up on the show notes page at serialstartups.co/show22 and Elena’s saved like $150 so far. She’s only four. We’re going to start working with her on how does she take some of that and save it. We’ll also give her some opportunities to invest because we want her to learn about that.
Ariana: Or when she wants to buy things, explain here’s what happens when you want to buy something. It costs this much and then that means you don’t have as much to buy other things.
Tom: Yeah. I think finally with this the recommendation is always go to college. It’s not that college is bad but it’s just, looking and at least exposing people to other paths so they can choose. Not just automatically assuming that you have to go to college.
Ariana: Make sure it’s what’s for you. Next in the life line here is after marriage. We’ll talk about some personal growth after marriage and I think one of the biggest things that I came to terms with is that if you can marry your best friend, you are so, so lucky. It is one of the best things that we ever did. Like Tom said earlier, friends used to pick on us in college. They literally called us … The soccer teams called us the married couple because we were together all the time, we were best friends, we just hit it off great and we had always told everyone, “We’re going to get married after college.” Some people took us seriously, some didn’t. I guess not a whole lot changed for us personally when we finally did get married because we kind of already had lived like a married couple of a while.
Tom: I would say probably the one thing is I think our outlook started to change a little bit. When we were in college, we didn’t really think too much about the future. We still kind of thought about ourselves. Obviously, we were together but I think as you get married and as you start to look towards the future, you start to make decisions based on that. This is when you get into, “Where are we going to live? Are we going to buy a house or are we going to rent? What type of jobs are we going to have? When are we going to have kids?” I think the thought process starts to change and that’s when a lot of maturity starts to happen.
Ariana: Yeah. We definitely matured.
Tom: I think we matured quicker, to be honest, than a lot of people.
Ariana: Because we lived as married couple in college.
Tom: I was going to say. Yeah. Exactly.
Ariana: After business, one of my biggest personal growth points was realizing that good friends are few and far between. Hold onto the ones that are there for you no matter what you’re doing, when your life changes. Being an entrepreneur obviously changes your life and we found that not a lot of people understand that sometimes. It’s rough when you lose people that you thought were friends but really hold onto those good ones and cherish them
Tom: We always tell people, when you’re going to start a business, one of the best things you can do is go and find someone that’s already doing the business that you want to do and get close to them and learn from them. One, you’re going to learn much more and be better at business quicker. Two, you’re going to have that support. When you first try to start a business, you may have some people who support but you’re going to have a lot of people that tear you down. I think that was a good thing for us was one, I, to be honest, didn’t care if people tore us down. Two, to your point, as you go through and you get older and you get married and you have kids and you start a business, you’re going to really narrow down who your circle is. I think the key thing is the people who are in that circle are really going to be your true friends. There might be some people who end up not fitting into that circle because you’re changing in a certain way and they’re changing in a certain way.
Ariana: Yeah. The drifters. We’ve learn to let the drifters drift off and we’ll just hold on to those good ones.
Tom: I think, one of my big things after we started a business was probably finding the balance between business and life. I’m very motivated because I know what I want our lives to look like and I had set that goal of retiring by 35 so I was very motivated to get there but at the same time, you can’t be 100% business and miss out on the life experiences. I think you helped me a lot with that. It’s always a struggle with entrepreneurs with you want to achieve that success but at the same time you got to make sure you’re not missing out on life in the mean time.
Ariana: Let’s talk about after kids.
Tom: For me, I think having kids makes you want to be the best version of yourself. When it’s just you, you only think about yourself. When you get married, you think about yourself and someone else. But when you have kids, now you have these little tiny beans.
Ariana: Little tiny beans.
Tom: That’s perfect. That start out, they know nothing and then you’re shaping and molding them. You start to realize, in some cases not so good, that they’re really watching everything you do. I think that makes you kind of come back and say, “What do I want to display to them and what do I want then to learn and be as they grow?” I think you just focus a lot more on how do you make sure you’re really projecting the image you want them to see.
Ariana: For me, I’ve learned that unfortunately due to sleep deprivation and a definite cap on patience, that isn’t always what happens. Being the best version of yourself. But, your kids will love you anyways no matter how many times you screw up with this whole parenting thing. That’s been my personal growth after kids.
Tom: I think one of the things too, it’s in business and it’s also being a parent. You’re going to make mistakes. You’re going to fail. I think that’s one of the parallels between being a business and being a parent. You’re not going to know all the answers. You’re just going to have to do something and you’re going to fail and you’re going to learn and you’re going to grow. I think that’s such an important thing. Your kids are going to remember the good things. If you make mistakes along the way, which you will, it’s not a huge deal.
Ariana: Nope.
Tom: I think just probably the other things from here is every time one of these major milestones come, you start to shift your perspective. I think when you have kids, you really start to look forward and kind of say, “Are the things I’m doing now working towards the life that I want to give them?” They’re going to be our legacy so what are we doing now and how are we setting up that legacy so that when we look back, we’re happy with what we did and what decisions we made.
Ariana: Your outlook changes from the one you had at marriage, for sure. Talking about marriage, let’s skip over to our relationship growth after college.
Tom: I played a lot less Final Fantasy. I think one of the things is in college, we lived separately. We were together quite a bit. After college, we moved in together. As anyone that’s moved in with a best friend or a significant other knows, there can be challenges with living together. It’s definitely exciting but you got to start to shift and adjust and figure out how do we work together. What are some of your pet peeves? How do we kind of work through that and then what do we do when situations get tough? How do we manage through that?
Ariana: Ariana had to learn to curb her OCD tendencies again living with someone.
Tom: Why you don’t like it when you’re in the shower and I turn the water on?
Ariana: No. He still does that to this day by the way.
Tom: I’m horrible.
Ariana: He pretty much still let’s me load the dishwasher too because that’s one. I just can’t do it.
Tom: Yeah. There’s certain things I just stay away from.
Ariana: He knows. After marriage, I would say our biggest growth was that we learned making big life decisions together is pretty tough as most people will tell you. Especially so, when it comes to the finances. We’ve realized after multiple arguments, or disagreements, or just issues we had with our finances we needed to communicate better and be on the same page with what we kind of wanted in our marriage.
Tom: I think one of the big things here is we got into a lot of debt very quickly. We actually have another podcast where we went into how we got into that debt. We did a whole timeline and how we got out of it. We paid off over $100,000 worth of debt. If you want to listen more to that you can go to serialstartups.co/show3. I think it’s so easy to get into that debt especially, when we talked before, if you don’t have a financial background or anyone to guide you. One thing after another and then you’re in this whole and then it makes all of those decisions even more difficult because you’re trying to dig out of that hole at the same time.
Related to that and getting into debt, it’s so important to talk about your finances. How are you going to manage them? Are you going to do it together or separately? Who is going to be responsible for what? Regardless of which approach you take, whenever you’re going to make a big decision, you got to talk about. If you listen to the show, you’ve heard us talk about this a couple of times about when I spent $7500 on the credit card for real estate training and didn’t tell Ariana. We’ll link to a blog post about that but the reality is, even if you’re handling your own money, you’re now a couple. You’re now together. Your decisions impact the other person. You really have to talk about those things beforehand.
I think the final thing is you’re going to make mistakes. We say this time and time again but it’s so true. You’re going to make financial mistakes. You’re going to make other mistakes. Part of being in a relationship is you got to work through it. So many people get divorced nowadays and the rate’s so high and I think if you figure out how to work through your failures and challenges together, you have such a higher rate of being successful, being happy, and really being able to enjoy your life.
We have a show that actually talks about as an entrepreneur, how do you fail in a smart way. You can check that out at serialstartups.co/show6. What I like about this is when you get into business, you can make a lot of mistakes and they can cost you a lot of money. Our strategy with this, let’s you kind of practice without risking the finances which I know Ariana really enjoys.
Ariana: Not my favorite board game. After business, I think one of my biggest personal growth points was learning that business isn’t personal. Because we work together, it is really difficult as a couple not to take those work disagreements as personal disagreements and to let that kind of blend over into your marriage. I think that was really another lesson in communication for us was we need to make sure we’re not messing with our relationship by having these work disagreements. Figuring out how we can work together in a way that’s business and then go ahead and turn off the business and have our relationship separately. We do have a show talking about that as well. If you head up to serialstartups.co/show8, we talk about how to stay organized and communicate in your business.
Tom: I think a key thing with that is you’ve got to figure out, and this works for people who aren’t working together because if one spouse is going to be the entrepreneur and the other is going to work a job, you still have to manage money together, figure out how you’re going to invest in the business, and figure out how much time you’re going to spend. One of the big things that’s really helped us is defining working agreements. Who’s going to play what role? What time are you going to commit to that? How much money are you going to commit to it? Then working together and communicating so that we figure out how we work together either as business partners or as an entrepreneur and a full time employee because those lives look very different. We have a show on this one too. Serialstartsup.co/show5. We really talk about how you overcome some of those challenges of working with your spouse.
Ariana: Then after kids, big one here. Big life realization. A good relationship really takes time and energy. People are not lying when they tell you that. Can’t stress communication enough here. After kids, they become your top priority and it is so, so easy to let your relationship with your spouse kind of fall off to the wayside.
Tom: I think you should say that again.
Ariana: What?
Tom: It’s so easy to let your relationship fall to they wayside.
Ariana: You just said it for me.
Tom: Yeah.
Ariana: You really have to work to make it all fit in with everything else because if you’re unhappy in one area of your life, it’s going to leak into all the others. If you don’t have a good relationship with your spouse, you’re going to start to mess with your relationship with your kids, you’re going to start to mess with your own relationship with yourself and just be unhappy everywhere. That is my biggest thing that I can’t stress enough. It takes the time and energy and you have to, have to communicate.
Tom: One of the things there that took us a while to figure out was we’ve got to kind of figure out what we both want our lives to look like. If we’re not intentional with that, our time gets sucked up with kids and with everything else and next thing you know, it’s five years later and maybe we’re not happy because we weren’t able to do some of the stuff we want. We actually have a show out there, serialstartups.co/show4 that really talks about how to do goal planning. Not only in your business but also in your life.
One of the biggest realizations that I had was I thought our lives were going to end up a certain way. You thought they were going to end up a different way. I was thinking more, we’re going to be entrepreneurs, we’re going to work hard for a couple of years, and then we’ll be able to kind of do what we want. You were initially thinking more of the traditional path. We have jobs, we have kids. It wasn’t until we really started talking about those combined goals, and then making sure that what we did got us there, that I think we started to work past a lot of the relationship things. I think also, too, the big savior for us is we kind of developed this system of how we manage it all. We’ve talked about in the past about Google Calendar and how we have like 8 calendars. One for each business, one for kids.
Ariana: It’s more than eight.
Tom: It is more than eight. I think we ran out of colors.
Ariana: I think we did.
Tom: You’re going to have a lot of demands on your time whether it’s your kids, your business, your time together with your spouse. You’re really going to have all these demands so by sitting down and actually figuring out where do you want to spend your time and being explicit with it, it’s really going to help you get everything done. The things you don’t get done are hopefully the things that you lowered priority and said, “These aren’t the things I’m going to do.”
Ariana: [inaudible 00:28:34] for tomorrow. I think we are towards the end of the show. I’ll let Tom go ahead and do our tip of the week.
Tom: We’ve said this is a journey and the biggest thing that I can tell anyone that’s going to embark on this journey is just be prepared for a tough road that you’re going to have ahead. One of my pet peeves in this entrepreneurial space, especially when you see it online, is people always glamorize, “Oh, you can be your own boss. You can wear sweatpants everyday.” Ariana.
Ariana: Hey.
Tom: “Oh, you can work on the beach. You can do whatever you want.”
Ariana: You can wear sweatpants everyday.
Tom: The reality is, some people can do that. Most people don’t. They’re showing a lifestyle they don’t actually live. It’s tough to be an entrepreneur. It is trying. You’re going to get depressed. You’re going to fail. You’re going to make mistakes. You’re going to doubt yourself. Other people are going to doubt you. With all that said, it is so worth it if you can persevere and really get through it because as an employee, you can create a certain life, but you’re always going to be constrained to what company you’re working for, when they tell you you have to work, and how much money they think you’re worth. As an entrepreneur, you can really create the life you want with the options you want.
The big reason that we created this podcast was obviously to help you guys build your business but more importantly, it’s not just about building the business. It’s about how you build businesses to build the life you want. A lot of people talk about this lifestyle design and all this other stuff, but like I said, it’s going to be hard. Don’t think because you’re facing a challenge that you’re the only one. Every entrepreneur goes through these tough times.
With that, I will wrap up the show. You can find all the links and everything we talked about here at serialstartups.co/show22. Don’t forget that we are finishing out the month of January which is our business planning month. We talked a lot about business planning this month. We talked a lot about business planning this month so if you are looking to take your first step in that entrepreneurial journey, make sure you check out some of the content. We actually have a free business planning template that you can download too so that’ll be linked up in the show notes.
Ariana: For February, we’re going to talk about getting all of your tasks and projects done. Our next episode, the first episode in February, is going to be all around the common challenges and solutions to getting your work done.
Tom: This is going to be a big one. People come to us all the time and say, “How do I get it done? How do I get organized?” We’re going to spend the entire month of February really helping you guys with the best tips and strategies that we’ve figured out over the years.
Ariana: Yep. That’s all for today. We will talk to you next week.
Tom: All right. Crush it guys.
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Tom: I look for intro music or transition music for like an hour and then I’m like, “No, we’ll just break and we’ll come back.”
Ariana: Yeah.
Tom: At some point we’ll get some transition music. What?
Ariana: Wrap it up.
Tom: [crosstalk 00:32:23]
Ariana: Good?
Tom: You can talk you know.
Ariana: I know. I forget.
Tom: [crosstalk 00:32:27] You don’t have to use sign language here.